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Senator Sanders Unfiltered
by Senator Bernie Sanders | August 13th, 2009

For much of America, the all-American values depicted in Norman Rockwell’s classic illustrations are idealistic.  For those of us from Vermont, they’re realistic.  That’s what we do. When Norman Rockwell lived and worked in Vermont, the people he painted were from here. That town meeting depicted in the painting called “Freedom of Speech,” it took place in Arlington, Vt., where, as it happens, I will be hosting a town meeting on Saturday in a public park.

I don’t recognize the raucous and rowdy town meetings in other parts of the country that have grabbed big headlines this month. Those shouters and screamers talk about “freedom,” but what they are doing is trying to disrupt meetings. That’s the absolute opposite of what freedom of discussion is about. They are trying to shout down speakers and shut down town meetings because they are afraid to debate the real issues and the unprecedented set of problems our country now faces.

In terms of health care they are afraid to debate the fact that we have a disintegrating health care system with soaring costs, that we have tens of millions uninsured and underinsured, the fact that over 18,000 Americans die every year because they don’t get to a doctor on time, or the reality that some 1 million Americans will go bankrupt this year because of medically-related bills. These people are screaming and yelling so we can’t have a real discussion of the real health care crisis.

If what you want is a real debate, let’s have it. Let’s ask why countries around the world have better health care outcomes than we do at half the cost. Let’s ask why we are the only nation in the industrialized world that does not have a national health care program guaranteeing health care for all of their people. Let’s ask why some 60 million Americans, including many with health insurance, do not have access to a physician on a regular basis.  Let’s ask why private insurance companies, which pay their CEOs outrageous compensation packages, deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions or refuse to extend their policies when they need it most.  Those are the kinds of questions that we ought to be discussing.

There’s a back story to the town meeting protests. The health care industry in America is doing everything it can to stop reform.  Incredibly, it has spent $130 million just in the last quarter trying to influence Congress.  The Washington Post has reported that $1.3 million a day is being spent by well-paid lobbyists to do everything they can do to stop healthcare reform. There is a reason for that intense opposition.  Private insurance companies in America are reaping huge profits. Drug companies in America are charging the American people, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. Of course, they don’t want health care reform. Of course, they’ll do everything to try to stop us.

I look forward to discussing those issues at town meetings in Vermont this month and, when I return to Washington after the August break, with Americans across the country.

I have had hundreds of town meetings in every corner of the state since I was elected to Congress in 1990 and the Senate in 2006.  I do them because I like them and because they are what an elected official should be doing.  I want to hear what’s on peoples’ minds, and I want to inform them of what my office is doing to address the very serious set of problems currently facing our country, problems that go beyond the health care crisis.

As Americans, we need a serious discussion about the collapse of the middle class and the growing gap between the very rich and everyone else.  We need to find a way to address the incredible greed on Wall Street while, at the same time, our manufacturing base is collapsing.  We need to determine how we can create millions of good paying green jobs as we address the terrible threats of global warming.

Shouting down and intimidating someone from speaking their mind is not exactly a Vermont town meeting value, nor should it be an American town meeting value.  It simply suggests fear of ideas that you may not be familiar with or disagree with. Unlike some other places around the country, I am confident that in Vermont people will be respectful of differing points of view.  I hope we can be a good example for rest of the country.

  • brogs65
    As a Brit I have no worries about Healthcare, but I find it amazing the amount of people in America some of whom I am in regular contact with, are against Universal Healthcare,"its Socialism, its Communism"is the sort of thing I hear, all i can say is they must be being lied to on a regular basis and if they can,t see that it is propaganda being spewed out by Health Insurance Co,s who see their obscene profits disappearing I fear for them , I really do!
  • albertocalderon
    YEAH FOX NEWS LIES,LIES AND LIES,,,,,FOX NEWS SHOUL BE SHUT OUT FOR GOOD,,
  • andyevano
    I'm the guy in blue with the bullhorn. This was taken at a healthcare rally in Los Angeles earlier this year. It is my great honor to be a very small part of the healthcare war. As a union organizer for the California School Employees Association I see, on a daily basis, the inequity and horror of the present healthcare system. Senator, please continue the fight. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness begins with "life."
  • bubba
    yes this whole health care thing sure has exposed a lot of the ignorance that is alive and well in America.Poor bubba, throw in a strategic word here and there ,about nascar jesus,guns,socialism,nationalism,".......and by god ,hell he wasn't even born here,so's I guess fer sure he's a black commie, come to rape your daughter and wife and enslave you to communism and that's right he wants ta do away with that ther nra and takes yer guns!! now if ins youins wants truth yous better pays up that cable bill and listen to that thar beck feller he's tellin the truth now I tell ya, poor fella loves 'Merika so much he cries sometimes he gets so worked up! I tell ya it's a sign of the end this negro gettin elected president, shore nuff they's is a'looki to distroy merica!!!...............
  • Jeannine Winter
    I liked the video very much. Thank you.
  • Mike Brogan
    As a Brit I.m dismayed by the Lies disseminated in the American Media concerning the NHS, I,m 65 now and have worked all my life as well as being a Veteran, and during that time I have paid a tax called National Insurance, now this is not voluntary, everyone pays this if they pay PAYE (Income Tax), this is money that is used to to Finance the NHS so everyone recieves FREE Healthcare, although there are Private Insurance Schemes if you so wish, I do not subscribe to a Private Schene and have no wish to do so ,as I don,t see the reason in paying for something that I get for free having paid for it through N.I. Just to give you an idea of the NHS, I recieve an War Pension, because of this I recieved Free Drugs before I was 60, when you reach that age everyone recieves free Medication, I had a Brain Haemorrhage while Jogging in 1991 and was Hospitalised,scanned and treated by the top Nuerosurgeons. I have in the past few years had a complete Knee Replacement., as I also suffer with severe back problems due to Athritis I recieve a new Car every 3 yrs Tax and Insurance Paid + Tyre,s all I have to find is the Gas and there is no limitation on the kind of Vehicle except that the higher marques require a Deposit. So please don,t believe the Lies being spouted by your Media and others with a vested interest in the Status Quo !
    Mike Brogan
  • Tom Burke
    Very happy to see your explanation of the Brit. NI. So many lies have been told over here about other countries' health plans that it's good to hear the truth. Thanks for your information and good luck with your health problems.
  • Patricia Smith
    The anger and the shouting is because for years the Congress and Senate have lied and cheated to do what they want without careing what the people of this country want or feel. No one in the Government will listen no matter how many times we object to what they are doing. Nancy Pelosi, for one, is one of the nut cakes we have to deal with and has no conscience about us or what she is doing. This govenment has destroyed everything we have done to make a great nation. Free Trade from cheap labor has ruined all our business' and sent this country into bankruptcy. Illegals have strained our schools, hospitals, Social Security, medicaid to bursting our whole economy at the seams. We have had it from incompitant leaders. Our country is broke. Then you wonder why we are yelling!
  • bertgold
    Dear Bernie,

    We met when you addressed a labor group in Berkeley in late 1995. Your remarks here are courageous and genius. Here is my point:

    The greed that drives the bankers and insurers opposition to a US healthcare plan is plainly evident to any informed observer. You correctly point that out.

    However, Obama has not been clear that competition from a public option is a necessity to keep greed from dominating the marketplace.

    Regulating (punishing) financiers, who are primarily interested in maximizing profits is insufficient to tame the diseconomy of US healthcare. Positive steps, such as offering low- or no- cost healthcare to those who cannot afford to participate in the marketplace is a NECESSITY! Ergo, Government sponsored insurance is a NECESSITY!

    The Obama Admin. erred by not proposing a plan of its own, and not being courageous enough in stating the obvious facts above. My old school buddy Axelrod is too busy trying to please his banker/donors on Wall Street to nail them appropriately on these issues. Obama will not be re-elected unless he finds some vertebrae to powerfully state the facts that you have articulated in this video.
  • Ken
    I think we should stop giving the Republican and Democratic Politicians so much grief and if they really believe Government provided healthcare is so evil and socialist then we should allow them to opt out of their Government provided Health Insurance and go out and find it on the private market like many of us do, and further i cannot understand why during their 8 years of Republican control of Washington why have they not already done it?
    You would think that with Federal and State Employee's,Medicare and Medicaid,Veterans and do not forget the growing Prison population we would be hearing in the media and from politicians themselves of the terrible coverage all these Government provided Health plans have.
    Surely these Politicians would be looking after the best interests of these groups!
    I am sure Mr.Helmsley of United Healthcare would love to have their business and he could probably even buy another new home and give the opponents the care they really are dying to have.
  • Nancy Nelmes
    Keep up the WONDERFUL work you are doing. I love it when you are a guest on all of my favorite programs - Rachel Maddow, etc. We HAVE to have reform without all the crazies! I hope President Obama realizes the attempts at bi-partisanship only serve to water down real needs without the reward of cooperation. Everytime something is negotiated away, the Conservatives chalk up another "win". We need to go for what is right. The minute he signs this type of bill, his ratings will return to the rightful place - - -higher!
  • wuggaslady
    Dear Senator Sanders, Thank you so much for listening to anyone who has concerns about healthcare in America. My husband and I live in D.C. and like many other people, we are uninsured because healthcare premiums are too expensive. So admittedly, health care reform is something that would improve the quality of our lives, as well as the lives of millions of other people.
    I especially thank you for making the effort to set the record straight about what healthcare reform is and dispelling the lies put foreward by various opponents.
    I am very concerned about the direction things appear to be going in. Despite having a majority in both houses, and the Presidency, it seems like the Dems are giving alot away to the Republicans who won't support any "reform", well except maybe a mandate on individuals which will only increase profits for the corporate interests and guarantee that more people will go into bankruptcy.

    Why not put together a bill that is sound policy, and use the art of persuasion similar to that of Lyndon Johnson to get the healthcare reform Americans voted for during the election of 2008?
  • realmendontshout
    Thank you for this video commentary Bernie! We need many more like you.
    I would suggest to those "Real Men and Women" that they need to understand something. When you work for a company, the company pays your insurance (or part of it), right?
    WRONG!
    That company pays your insurance as PART OF YOUR WAGE in "benefits". You might also have to pay a part of your insurance (taken out of your paycheck) because the company says it can't afford to pay it all anymore.
    YOU ACTUALLY PAY ALL OF YOUR INSURANCE!
    Not only that, the company deducts the insurance payment from its taxes.
    Wouldn't you just like to know exactly how much YOU actually pay for insurance?
  • kathleenkearney
    I live in Tucson AZ and am represented by the courageous and progressive Congressman Raul Grijalva who is doing his best to insure there is a public option in any health care reform. However, my senators are John McCain and John Kyle, who have both sold out to special interests and to the right wing fear mongering branch of the GOP. I have listened to your comments on the Rachel Maddow show and was impressed by your arguments, and to your call for all of us ordinary citizens to send emails to members of the senate finance committee and other senators and represenatives to let them know that the majority of us do support a public option. Thank you for the call to action and instructions on how we can make a difference.
  • joannern
    I suggest that if there is no public option in the final bill, that we the democrats send our voter registration cards to the President with a note explaining that we will no longer need them as our vote really does not make any difference. WE should have figured this out after the 2000 drama that was called an election. However we didn't and we bought into the hope that then Senator Obama ran on. I do not blame only him, there is a lot of blame to go around. The politicians spend millions to get our vote. It will only take a postage stamp to let them know that we aren't impressed.
  • Please get the info out there about the West Tenneessee Boweevil Errad Program that Sprayed MALATHION @ 7years Paid for by the Federal Gov. to Ag Dept & Cotton Farmers .I had BCBS of Tn 17yrs @$7500 a yr I only used it in the 17th yr ONE TIME .The OBGYN from BCBS gave me VIOXX for pain .I should be dead I took all 16pills in less than 24 Hrs .I trusted my OBGYN & BCBS .Well I had to beg for months to get a operation ! It took a Ultra Sound probe to break off inside of me to get a Operation . 2 Weeks later BCBS called and said they would never cover cancer in me again I was on my own !! Was it because of my address ? YES I lived behind the HUMBOLD T Tn Airport in the middle of about 800 acers of COTTON .Those Aiplane Pilots waved @ me while they sprayed me & they did tricks flying under my electric lines while they sprayed me & waved ! Where they telling me goodbye ? YES ! No One ever told me or the airplanes Men never came over to tell me Get in the House it is MALATHION we r spraying ! No One Not a COUNTY OFFICAL Not the Humboldt Health Deptament not the Human Services No One told me ! Please google West Tennessee Malathion 2000-01 I am NOT part of any law suit as many are like me Dont Know what hit them ! And wonder why they are so sick ! And Please watch YouTube WINNIPEG & MALATHION with Gelnda Whiteman PT 3 ! I have had many friends who died under 40 and 50 most with No OBITS because no one cared ! And 2 friends under 40 who have MS ! I am very afraid for my life ! My Health Care Horror story goes on I have a few more to tell that go along with this .But just the MALATHION is enough isnt it Americans ? Thank You and God Bless Robert Greenwald and Senator Sanders
  • dearpru
    Bernie speaks the truth. Glenn Beck speaks whatever will get him the biggest paycheck.
  • Jacob Pooler
    Senator,

    First off allow me to take the time to thank you for answering peoples questions. It's interesting how you even include people with oppose views because it encourages the debating process.

    I myself am part of those Americans who have no insurance on account that I cannot afford it. This means if I get injured, or sick then I will have no financial means to handle it. (As it stands the wadges are barely enough to keep my head above water)

    I fully support you in your efforts and I hope your town meeting goes well.
  • rdr
    Thank you for allowing us to consider you as America's senator, I try to listen to you on Fridays with Thom Hartmann when ever I get a chance, but it's not often enough. I've recently learned of an organization called Mad As Hell Doctors, a group from Physicians for a National Health Plan in Oregon. Next month they plan to caravan cross country to D.C. in support of HR 676. I've promised myself and them I would help get the word out as best I could and hope your Unfiltered show might be a great way to do that. If that's an inappropriate request I do apologize for my inexperience in knowing the best way to reach out.
  • margaretwostrom
    Bless you, Senator. Only you and Bill Moyers have credibility with me these days.
  • Grouchy
    I wish Mt. Sanders's response to "real man" had included where the figures he quotes were obtained. In my neighborhood those figures are assumed to be made up, twisted or changed.
  • terrygresham
    Senator, why are veterans afraid of being dumped? That sounds silly to me. I can never imagine something like that, however, somehow they believe it. What's going on here and how can a person like me respond to the myth.
  • cincin3
    While in England on Vacation I became ill, I ended up in a hospital for one month with no travelers insurance. I thought what a great public health systen this country has.
    As they would not even let a traveller get sick and die. What if I had entered the states and became ill with no travellers insurance. I would be in debt for a very long time after.

    I do hope the UNITED states can soon get a proper health care system like the United kingdom, or Canada. They are one of the few western countries that have nothing in health care for their citizens. I have heard from many US citizens, and it is deplorable the conditions and situations which people must endure only to get some basic health care. There is no reason why people should die in EMERGENCY rooms.
    take action NOW!
  • TheFaithful
    Senator Sanders,
    My question, which I'm not sure you will answer since its not in video form, is, why don't the pro-reform representatives, senators and president Obama just call these people, that spread these ridiculous things about the healthcare bill, "Liars" and what they say "Lies". Why do they say, "falsehoods", "incorrect" and things like that? I will await your reply and in the mean time try to find a webcam.
  • Sharon Matter
    We truly do need a forum to have a very public national discussion with the utmost in intelligent ideas. Beyond C-Span, is there any other place where something like this could occur?
  • Salvino
    Please address the issue of health care responsibility. Americans buy billions of dollars worth of junk food every year. These purchases cause tremendous increases in health care costs and support non-sustainable production of food which will have dire consequences on the next generation. Americans also buy billions of dollars of worthless legal drugs every year. Drug companies spend billions of dollars advertising these worthless drugs, and they spend millions bribing our government officials. Industrial profiteers pollute our air, water, and land in the name of quarterly profits. As long as these behaviors continue, all the reform in the world is not going to fix the root of the problem.
  • Grouchy
    You Sir are discussing the failure of our experiment in self - Governance. I firmly believe the main failure is greed, pure and simple, which is exacerbated by Capitalism. I have no solution for greed or better idea than capitalism. I just see the over arching devestation caused by these twin evils. Perhaps capitalism breeds greed, or maybe greed breeds capitalism, but there it is. Communism and Socialism to me do not seem to be in any way better. I have an idea lots of us out here in computer - land may feel the same way.
  • debimcdonough
    Senator:

    I hope your ideas take hold. The common sense you deliver in your messages is something we don't see much of in either of the major parties. Thank you for being a voice for so many of us "average" Americans.
  • dianneanderson
    Dear Senator Sanders,

    Thank you for including me in your email. I live in Idaho where no live town meetings are being held. The Senators here feel that they have no need to hold town hall meetings since everyone here must be Republican. We elected a Democtatic representative for the first time in 14 years as the state had significant numbers of people vote for Obama. However our new Democrat votes consistantly with the Republicans. I am an Independent and have contacted Minnick's office in WA several times but to no avail. He is holding telephone meetings and I will take part in those.
  • Chuqui49
    Thank you... Thank you for being courageous and stepping up to the plate when it is most needed. I would only hope that my two senators from Oregon would follow your example and move toward providing our nation with a health care system we can be proud of. The time has come.
  • Dear Senator Sanders , You can tell these people are just programed to spatter off .They have not read about the HR676 bill .I think all this out rage is not only about health care but other angers inside of people who lost the election .And all their supporters joining those loosers .Every single person I have given HR676 to #1 never heard of it #2 they all want it and even ask me how do they get it .I rode the train from Ft Worth to Chicago and from Chi to Memphis and took the Grey Hound from memephis back to Ft.Worth .And not one person who I gave the HR676 said they didnt want it .Everyone was blown away with it .Most people who ride the trains and Gray Hound buses dont have internet or a computer .We have many more supporters for the HR676 , something the Media will never know ,one thing for sure is the POLLS will show during the next election . President Obama has nothing to worry about ,everyone knows about the plan to ruin him> DeMint.We will never give up the fight for HR676 something that was needed since 1929 .Enough of the murder of the innocents .We are 40 yrs behind Germany & they where destroyed in 1945 .We have had 200 +yrs to progress and we have fallen behind the rest of the world .Americans First HR676 yesterday !Thank you Senator Sanders .
  • Senator Sanders. i so greatly appreciate youre fight on behalf of the American people in this crucial debate on Americas Healthcare Crisis. But i sorely wonder is it to late. After the memo leaked to the Huffington Post stating that The President has made major concessions to Big Pharma. Specifically that to get the 80 billion dollars from the drug companys that he,the president,will not be allowed to negotiate for lower drug costs, that importation must be curtailed, and other provisions. Is our fight for Universal coverage, or at the least the Public option doomed by our own President. And also especially after the events of the last few days between the president,and Sen Chuck Grassley. I hope that my own President hasnt caved and sold us out
  • Grouchy
    Tim - he has caved and will continue. I'm so disgusted I cannot believe it - where once there was hope there now is the abyss. I wish - not hope - I was wrong in this, but - - - - - -
  • dmcrane
    Wow! I wish you were in Florida. Mel Martinez is leaving; want to move South? Good, straight to the point explanatons. I'm 65, in my life I've been covered by military medical, Champus, no insurance between jobs (had to file bankruptcy over an emergency surgery;that was before COBRA), between jobs but couldn't afford COBRA premium of $544 when I wasn't working; insurance while working for a very small college, few employees, no leverage and the insurance companies kept raising our premiums every year of the 5 years I worked there. When several of us turned 60 (including the boss) they raised my premium fro $470 to $800 and raised my boss' premium from $500 to $1100 because he'd had a heart attack. Now on Medicare and so far I love it. What a relief to not worry about having coverage, and be able to move where I want and not fear losing insurance. I have the same doctors I had on my previous insurance, haven't had to change a one. Everyone should have this, but I'll be happy if everyone gets coverage. The parable of the Good Samaritan tells us to "not pass by on the other side" as if others needs don't concern us. WWJD...well I think he'd tell us to care for those less fortunate and love our neighbors as ourselves.
  • cincin3
    I really found your story informative. Having lived in BC, Canada on my life I have been covered by our B.C. healthcare system. Everyone gets health care !!!! For awhile we have had a problem with not enough doctors and not enough hospitals for our growing population. But now they are improving this. BUilding more hospitals and training more medical doctors.
    No one should have to go through the corrupt system of greed over sick people as you and others have in the U.S, It sounds as though they are capitalizing on the sick as mentioned by the story of your boss and his heart problem. I am so glad you are enjoying your newly found 'FREEDOM of MEDICARE'. This is one that I soon hope is enjoyed by all citizens. Whether it comes from Obama or whatever party... IT IS A HUMAN RIGHT!! BRING IT ON!!
  • dmcrane
    Totally agree with you on it being a Human Right. By the way, love BC...my very favorite province. Have been there several times and hope to go again.
  • linda123
    Sentor Sanders
    Have watched you for quite some time and listen to you on Thom Hartman. Glad you have this new forum and appreciate all your hard work. We have BCBS..very expensive and deductible keeps going up. My worry as we approach retirement we won't be able to afford private insurance and Medicare doesn't cover everything. We're hearing now that the president has done a secret deal behind closed doors that scraps the public option. Deals made with Pharma as well. Is this true?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/13/intern...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/health/policy...
  • Grouchy
    Linda - the word regarding Obama and we underlings is "Betrayal." So many of us worked so hard to get him elected and I for one feel we got and are getting shafted - as usual. Don't get me wrong here - little Shrubbie's mess ups will take decades to fix, so getting a psudo - non Repugnican into office was imperative, but he is only one guy, and not a true Democrat, so there we go. I'm still sickened that over 70% of Americans want single payer health care and Obama is not discussing it and has allowed Baucaus to run the health care "debate." So, yeah, in my view, "betrayal" fits the bill. And there are other Obama issues - a wheel barrel full of them. Still, when put against ANY Repugnican - - - - - - -
  • Let'sd see if the people who fall for all the lies will even bother to listen to this...
  • Belinda Mathers
    You go Senator Sanders!! You are my hero and I thank you for all you are doing for the American public.

    How can I subscribe to getting your weekly video?
  • cherylmurray
    I am from Florida, but would vote for you in a nano second if I could. My husband and I have great insurance... Tricare. He's retired military, and we've been married 41 years. I know I don't have to worry for myself, but I also know how blessed I am. My wish, as an American, is that every American would feel just as blessed when it comes to health care. And no, I don't believe for one minute that when I get older, my country is going to euthanize me. And I don't believe there is going to be a panel set up to refuse any children health care because they are mentally impaired. I believe in America, and I believe in Obama. And now, I believe in you. Thank you for being there for all of us.
  • adria007
    Senator Sanford, I am not one of your constituents but I kind of wish I was! Please keep fighting the good fight for the good of our country and its people! You are truly an inspiration and hopefully more intelligent, well-spoken, and straight forward politicians will follow your example. Thank you for your service to this country.
  • Tracy Klem
    I am a long time admirer of yours and I want to say "Thank you for what you are doing!". We must work together and push forward to get Universal Healthcare...the time is right.
  • edclee
    To me "Real Man"(?) represents the fundamental attitude of most Americans, maybe not to that extent. I keep hearing that 70% of US wants health care reform, but basically they are happy with what they have. Little do they know that when some of them suffers debilitating illness, they will have to contend with the escalating out-of-pocket expenses if they are lucky. Some get their policy canceled based on preexisting conditions, or whatever excuses. Some went bankrupt. Some lost their jobs and found that Cobra was prohibitively expensive. It's a reality most of us don't face yet but really not aware of. I think that needs to be emphasized on the debate to make sure everyone knows that the reform with public option is the only way to ensure we all have meaningful health insurance.
  • Grouchy
    I am of the opinion you are correct about "Real Man" representing most Americans. Which absolutely sickens me - uneducated, uninformed, unwilling to learn anything, and able to read on about a 6th grade level, afraid of intellectuals, academics, - who does have his Bible and Gun, and is most happy to use them on you.
  • edclee
    Let me emphasize I DO NOT think most Americans are uneducated, uninformed, ... as you indicated. They are mostly sympathetic to the plight of the uninsured, thus the 70% of the country approving health reform. What I was trying to convey was their relative ignorance of how the health industry has been screwing them over and again. The insurance policy is a ticking time bomb that can go off at any minute. I haven't even mentioned how the insurance premiums had doubled in last ten years and every CEO of health insurance companies are making tens of millions of dollars.

    The people you described: well we know who they are, the Republican base it is.
  • Ken
    My comment was that a lot of these protestors and people saying that they were concerned about death panels and not getting care after age 55 were uneducated or uninformed about the bill not that they lacked a education.
    The bill everyone is referring to is online (all 1000+pages)and is written in simple easy to read language and I would think that those that have taken such an interest in this debate would take the time to at least read the section or sections containing the end of life couseling option that was great because it would be paid for rather than someone having to hire an attorney to get professional advice but do to the outrage that section is being taken out.
    Each coverage concern is easily addressed in the bill.
    I would think that as soon as people start reading the bill that they would realize that what is being reported by the politicians opposing reform that there would be outrage for the scare tactics being used by them.
    There should have been a debate televised during prime time over this whole issue showing the actual language of the bill and sections in question.
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